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Modelling with money

Discounts, markups and profit: formulate the problem, choose fractions, percentages or ratios, solve, and say what the answer means in dollars.

A $200 bike is 20% off, and then a coupon takes a further 10% off the new price. Is that the same as 30% off?

Money problems are ratio and percentage problems with a context. The habit is the same three steps:

  1. Formulate: what is known (price, discount, cost), what is unknown, and which representation (fraction, decimal, percentage, ratio) fits?
  2. Solve: choose an efficient calculation, estimate first, and use a calculator where it helps.
  3. Interpret: say what the answer means, in dollars, with a sensible amount of rounding, and justify why you chose that representation.

Two traps: a percentage is always of something (the original amount for profit or discount), and percentages of different amounts cannot be added.

PredictRead the problem and decide what you think before you try anything. A wrong guess is fine: it shows you what to look for.

Two discounts

Why is 10% of the new price less than 10% of $200?

A $200 bike is 20% off, then a coupon takes 10% off the new price. What is the final price?

TryTry it on the board and compare the result with your prediction.

30% off $200

Now set 20%, then use 10% off that price.

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Set the discount to 30%. What is the sale price? Is it the same as your predicted price for two discounts?

Use the board. This ticks when you get there.

InvestigateWork out why it happens, one step at a time.

Formulate, solve, interpret

Known: a $60 jumper is 25% off. Unknown: the sale price. What is it, in dollars?

Ben finds the percentage profit on a scarf. Click the line where his working goes wrong.

Shop A takes 13\tfrac{1}{3} off a $90 jacket. Shop B takes 30% off. Which is the better deal, and why?

ModifyChange the problem on purpose and see what happens.

New money problems

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A game costs $120 and has 15% off. What is the sale price?

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You earn $20 an hour and get a 5% pay rise. What is your new hourly rate, in dollars?

A $50 top is marked up by 40% and then sold at 20% off the new price. Estimate first: will the final price be more or less than $50? Then work it out, in dollars.

The calculator shows a sale price of 33.6. How do you write it in a shop?

You model the top with 50 × 1.4 × 0.8. What does the model assume about the 20% off?

PractiseA few on your own, to check you have it.

Money models

A $240 prize is shared: 14\tfrac{1}{4} to Ann, and the rest equally among 3 others. How much does each of the other three get, in dollars?

A bike costs $400. You have saved 65% of it. How many more dollars do you need?

A pack of 12 pens costs $9, while one pen costs $1. What percentage cheaper is each pen in the pack?

Review: share $84 in the ratio 3:43 : 4. What is the bigger share, in dollars?

MakeMake your own problem using what you have learned. Expect a few tries; that is normal.

A $75 sale

Then write one sentence for a shopper explaining your sale.

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Need a hint?

The sale price is price × (1 − discount).

Another hint

Try $100 with 25% off.

Choose a price and a discount so the sale price is exactly $75.

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For teachers

Students model money problems (discounts, rises, markups, profit and sharing) by formulating what is known and unknown, choosing a representation, solving, and interpreting and justifying the answer in dollars (AC9M7N09, nodes 1 to 3). About 45 minutes.

Open the teacher guide: answers, solutions, slides and a worksheet.

Students will be able to

Before class

Do the Run board yourself first. Students need percentages of amounts (Percentages), sharing in a ratio, and rounding for money.

Three nodes in one lesson: formulate (known, unknown, representation), solve and interpret in dollars, and justify the choice. The two traps are using the wrong base (profit as a percentage of the selling price, Ben) and adding percentages that are of different amounts (20% then 10% is not 30%).

Calculators are fine. The estimate comes first, and the answer is written to the cent with units.

Running the lesson

  1. Predict: students who chose $140 added 20% and 10%; $150 and $160 are other slips.
  2. Run: ask why 10% of $160 is less than 10% of $200.
  3. Investigate: have students say 'of what?' aloud for each percentage in the jumper and the scarf.
  4. Modify: for the markup then sale, ask whether the final price is more or less than $50, and why.
  5. Make: share the pairs and ask which shop would you prefer, and why.

The hard part (on purpose)

Knowing what the percentage is of. Ask 'of which amount?' every time a percentage appears, especially the second one in a two-step problem.

When students get stuck

Stretch and support

Stretch: A shop marks up its cost by 25%, then offers a 20% sale on the new price. Does it make a profit? Does the shop ever lose money with a 25% markup followed by a bigger sale?

Support: Use the bar for each step, and write 'of $…' next to every percentage.

Where it leads

Next: Modelling with ratios, with mixes, scale drawings and models in measurement.

Where it leads: GST, simple and compound interest, profit and loss, and financial literacy in Years 8 to 10.

What each step is for

Now you can
Practise this skillNew questions, new numbers each timeGet 3 right in a row to mark it practised.Next lesson24. Modelling with ratiosMixes, scale drawings and models: say what is known and unknown, choose the ratio, solve, and answer in the units of the situation.